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		<title>By: harris</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ancestry.com/uk/2010/09/24/have-you-got-engineering-ancestors/#comment-543</link>
		<dc:creator>harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 20:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is a   positive confirmation of the usefullness of the engineering institute mentioned above ,
the mechanical engineering institue on bird cage walk london hold archive material on engineers applications and some memorials of those of note,
i was lucky recently to contact them via email as cannot get to lindon,they where very helpful and did a search for me for a small fee i got copies of a few documents ,
my ancester being sydney smith the inventor and engineer.

lynn harris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is a   positive confirmation of the usefullness of the engineering institute mentioned above ,<br />
the mechanical engineering institue on bird cage walk london hold archive material on engineers applications and some memorials of those of note,<br />
i was lucky recently to contact them via email as cannot get to lindon,they where very helpful and did a search for me for a small fee i got copies of a few documents ,<br />
my ancester being sydney smith the inventor and engineer.</p>
<p>lynn harris</p>
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		<title>By: Chagoi</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ancestry.com/uk/2010/09/24/have-you-got-engineering-ancestors/#comment-541</link>
		<dc:creator>Chagoi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 16:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL Judy, you beat me to it!  Well I typed all this out so might as well post it.
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Yes, that is correct, 21,805 people died in the district of Sglos.  Choose the first name on that list:

Leslie Aaronson who died there in Oct 2000.

Now, delete Sglos and leave district box blank. 
Choose Gloucestershire from the dropdown County menu and search for the same Leslie Aaronson.

There are no results, because you have omitted the county name from the &quot;Inferred County&quot; field, therefore he/she didn&#039;t die there.  (I am presuming that Sglos is meant to be the registration district of South Gloucestershire, created in 2003 or so.)

Devon/Devonshire
Deaths registered before 1984 have an &quot;Inferred County&quot; of Devonshire.  However, on your dropdown county menu, I can only choose Devon, which cuts out all the people who died in Devonshire.

A no-name search for all the (dropdown) DEVON deaths gives 337,949 results.
A no-name search for DEVONSHIRE entered in the keyword box gives 774,220 results.
This gives a total of 1,112,169.

A no name search with only DEVON* entered in the keyword box gives 1,114,503 results (but 3212 of those are people whose name begins with Devon*).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL Judy, you beat me to it!  Well I typed all this out so might as well post it.<br />
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<p>Yes, that is correct, 21,805 people died in the district of Sglos.  Choose the first name on that list:</p>
<p>Leslie Aaronson who died there in Oct 2000.</p>
<p>Now, delete Sglos and leave district box blank.<br />
Choose Gloucestershire from the dropdown County menu and search for the same Leslie Aaronson.</p>
<p>There are no results, because you have omitted the county name from the &#8220;Inferred County&#8221; field, therefore he/she didn&#8217;t die there.  (I am presuming that Sglos is meant to be the registration district of South Gloucestershire, created in 2003 or so.)</p>
<p>Devon/Devonshire<br />
Deaths registered before 1984 have an &#8220;Inferred County&#8221; of Devonshire.  However, on your dropdown county menu, I can only choose Devon, which cuts out all the people who died in Devonshire.</p>
<p>A no-name search for all the (dropdown) DEVON deaths gives 337,949 results.<br />
A no-name search for DEVONSHIRE entered in the keyword box gives 774,220 results.<br />
This gives a total of 1,112,169.</p>
<p>A no name search with only DEVON* entered in the keyword box gives 1,114,503 results (but 3212 of those are people whose name begins with Devon*).</p>
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		<title>By: judy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ancestry.com/uk/2010/09/24/have-you-got-engineering-ancestors/#comment-540</link>
		<dc:creator>judy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 16:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the point being made i believe is there is no where in England called

‘sglos’

if as i suspect this is meant to be 

&#039;south Gloucestershire&#039;

then why has the records been entered under 

‘sglos’

and as to Devon/ Devonshire

although i have not personal seen this problem i think what is being pointed out is that Devon is referred to as just that not as Devonshire!

so if there are records with Devonshire in the transcript then they have been wrongly transcribed.

and LASTLY a reminder that some of the LMA records when they were transcribed were listed under the wrong county for example 

Lambeth is not in the county of Middlesex as stated in the LMA records but in the county of surrey. the errors in the transcriptions of the LMA in regard to the incorrect counties allotted were reported when the records were placed on line and still they are not corrected. 

those of us from the UK know of course the fact that there is no place / county such as ‘sglos’  and that Lambeth is not in Middlesex but in surrey. but a large number of people who use ancestry DO NOT come from the UK and would just assume that the county is correct letting them assume this is very wrong and it does not appear very professional to your UK users or those out with the UK who do know their geography</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the point being made i believe is there is no where in England called</p>
<p>‘sglos’</p>
<p>if as i suspect this is meant to be </p>
<p>&#8216;south Gloucestershire&#8217;</p>
<p>then why has the records been entered under </p>
<p>‘sglos’</p>
<p>and as to Devon/ Devonshire</p>
<p>although i have not personal seen this problem i think what is being pointed out is that Devon is referred to as just that not as Devonshire!</p>
<p>so if there are records with Devonshire in the transcript then they have been wrongly transcribed.</p>
<p>and LASTLY a reminder that some of the LMA records when they were transcribed were listed under the wrong county for example </p>
<p>Lambeth is not in the county of Middlesex as stated in the LMA records but in the county of surrey. the errors in the transcriptions of the LMA in regard to the incorrect counties allotted were reported when the records were placed on line and still they are not corrected. </p>
<p>those of us from the UK know of course the fact that there is no place / county such as ‘sglos’  and that Lambeth is not in Middlesex but in surrey. but a large number of people who use ancestry DO NOT come from the UK and would just assume that the county is correct letting them assume this is very wrong and it does not appear very professional to your UK users or those out with the UK who do know their geography</p>
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		<title>By: Web Operations</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ancestry.com/uk/2010/09/24/have-you-got-engineering-ancestors/#comment-539</link>
		<dc:creator>Web Operations</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 13:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Chagoi, if you do a no-name search in the 1916-2005 death index with the location as ‘sglos&#039;,  you will get 21,805 returns. 

Are you able to provide a little more detail regarding the Devon/Devonshire mixup?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chagoi, if you do a no-name search in the 1916-2005 death index with the location as ‘sglos&#8217;,  you will get 21,805 returns. </p>
<p>Are you able to provide a little more detail regarding the Devon/Devonshire mixup?</p>
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		<title>By: Chagoi</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ancestry.com/uk/2010/09/24/have-you-got-engineering-ancestors/#comment-537</link>
		<dc:creator>Chagoi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 09:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#5 Judy, it&#039;s good to hear that Ann Mitchell has got back to you.  Let&#039;s hope these LMA databases are fixed very, very quickly … 

… not, as you point out, like their dreadfully implemented GRO Deaths Index 1916-2006.  It is extremely frustrating searching on a common name for someone who died before 1969 (the year dates of birth were included on the deaths index).  Ancestry put that index online *TEN MONTHS* ago, and we&#039;re still waiting.

By the way, what county does the registration district of Sglos belong to?  If you select Gloucestershire from the dropdown menu, 21,805 people who died in Sglos between 1984-2005 don&#039;t even appear in the index!

And then there&#039;s the Devon/Devonshire mixup ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#5 Judy, it&#8217;s good to hear that Ann Mitchell has got back to you.  Let&#8217;s hope these LMA databases are fixed very, very quickly … </p>
<p>… not, as you point out, like their dreadfully implemented GRO Deaths Index 1916-2006.  It is extremely frustrating searching on a common name for someone who died before 1969 (the year dates of birth were included on the deaths index).  Ancestry put that index online *TEN MONTHS* ago, and we&#8217;re still waiting.</p>
<p>By the way, what county does the registration district of Sglos belong to?  If you select Gloucestershire from the dropdown menu, 21,805 people who died in Sglos between 1984-2005 don&#8217;t even appear in the index!</p>
<p>And then there&#8217;s the Devon/Devonshire mixup &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: judy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ancestry.com/uk/2010/09/24/have-you-got-engineering-ancestors/#comment-535</link>
		<dc:creator>judy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 15:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes i have had contact from ann asking for more info i sent some screen shots for her. both kenny and ann normally respond to any emails so i knew tat posting here and to ann WOULD GET A RESPONSE TO THIS URGENT PROBLEM even if we dont see a result quickly. sure hope the dates at least are back soon. now all we need is the gro death index for 1916 - 2006 to have the missing age of death along with estimated yearthat don&#039;t show on some of the records to be added .

THANKS ANCESTRY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes i have had contact from ann asking for more info i sent some screen shots for her. both kenny and ann normally respond to any emails so i knew tat posting here and to ann WOULD GET A RESPONSE TO THIS URGENT PROBLEM even if we dont see a result quickly. sure hope the dates at least are back soon. now all we need is the gro death index for 1916 &#8211; 2006 to have the missing age of death along with estimated yearthat don&#8217;t show on some of the records to be added .</p>
<p>THANKS ANCESTRY</p>
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		<title>By: Annabel Bernhardt</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ancestry.com/uk/2010/09/24/have-you-got-engineering-ancestors/#comment-534</link>
		<dc:creator>Annabel Bernhardt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 10:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you all for your comments – we are taking this very seriously and are in the process of looking into the reasons behind the issues raised.  We will feedback to you as soon as we have an update. In the meantime, if you would like to speak to anyone directly please call our Member Services number on 0800 404 97 23.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you all for your comments – we are taking this very seriously and are in the process of looking into the reasons behind the issues raised.  We will feedback to you as soon as we have an update. In the meantime, if you would like to speak to anyone directly please call our Member Services number on 0800 404 97 23.</p>
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		<title>By: Chagoi</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ancestry.com/uk/2010/09/24/have-you-got-engineering-ancestors/#comment-533</link>
		<dc:creator>Chagoi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 05:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Grief! The LMA (London) Baptisms and Burials databases are now useless.  

Surely it&#039;s a glitch — they can&#039;t have deliberately wiped out the dates and parishes from their results as some sort of improvement ... er, can they?

An acknowledgement from Ancestry stating that there&#039;s a problem would be nice, but from past experience Ancestry doesn&#039;t &quot;do&quot; apologies. I hope I&#039;m proved wrong this time.

Judy (above), please let us know if you get any response from Ann.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Grief! The LMA (London) Baptisms and Burials databases are now useless.  </p>
<p>Surely it&#8217;s a glitch — they can&#8217;t have deliberately wiped out the dates and parishes from their results as some sort of improvement &#8230; er, can they?</p>
<p>An acknowledgement from Ancestry stating that there&#8217;s a problem would be nice, but from past experience Ancestry doesn&#8217;t &#8220;do&#8221; apologies. I hope I&#8217;m proved wrong this time.</p>
<p>Judy (above), please let us know if you get any response from Ann.</p>
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		<title>By: judy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ancestry.com/uk/2010/09/24/have-you-got-engineering-ancestors/#comment-532</link>
		<dc:creator>judy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it seems that also the following has missing fields as above

London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it seems that also the following has missing fields as above</p>
<p>London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980</p>
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		<title>By: judy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ancestry.com/uk/2010/09/24/have-you-got-engineering-ancestors/#comment-531</link>
		<dc:creator>judy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 20:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as this blog is not bizzy and i know it will not be missed here  so sorry of subject but this needs reporting concerning the data base for

 London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

the last update it seems has wiped out the dates and boroughs information that was present BEFORE the update!

when will they be returned

have also sent email to Ann Mitchel at .com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as this blog is not bizzy and i know it will not be missed here  so sorry of subject but this needs reporting concerning the data base for</p>
<p> London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906</p>
<p>the last update it seems has wiped out the dates and boroughs information that was present BEFORE the update!</p>
<p>when will they be returned</p>
<p>have also sent email to Ann Mitchel at .com</p>
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