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	<title>Comments on: Ancestry Search: Improvements to Basic Search</title>
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	<description>A hundred years of naming conventions flushed down the toilet</description>
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		<title>By: Ron Lankshear</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ancestry.com/au/2011/01/17/ancestry-search-improvements-to-basic-search/comment-page-1/#comment-853</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Lankshear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 03:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further to 11916 deaths problem
There is a difference between the ways the 1837-1915 data is shown
in both Old and New Search
1837-1915 index has 
B - year and quarter with 3 months on hits but no district - its in detail - the district is important
M - only year shown on hits - detail has quarter with 3 months 
D - only year on hits - detail has quarter with 3 months

For M and D having the actual quarter in full hits list is important


Could you please ask Search team to look at this 
so that results are consistent across databases

Of course It is good that deaths has calculated birth year</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further to 11916 deaths problem<br />
There is a difference between the ways the 1837-1915 data is shown<br />
in both Old and New Search<br />
1837-1915 index has<br />
B &#8211; year and quarter with 3 months on hits but no district &#8211; its in detail &#8211; the district is important<br />
M &#8211; only year shown on hits &#8211; detail has quarter with 3 months<br />
D &#8211; only year on hits &#8211; detail has quarter with 3 months</p>
<p>For M and D having the actual quarter in full hits list is important</p>
<p>Could you please ask Search team to look at this<br />
so that results are consistent across databases</p>
<p>Of course It is good that deaths has calculated birth year</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Lankshear</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ancestry.com/au/2011/01/17/ancestry-search-improvements-to-basic-search/comment-page-1/#comment-844</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Lankshear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 00:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for passing that on - ay news of when the search team have an answer for the BMD search problem.

Could you please also get them to look at 
England &amp; Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005

The years 1916-1968 do not show any birth year and yet the age at death is in the detail. The Deaths in the other database 1837-1915 can be searched with birth year but this does not work in 1916-1968 block which must make many customers think their ancestor is not there. 

Also the Year of death registration shows BUT not the months - yet the heading is &quot;Death Registration Month/Year&quot; 

Please have the structure of this database checked and re-built as needed. 
It really does not look very professional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for passing that on &#8211; ay news of when the search team have an answer for the BMD search problem.</p>
<p>Could you please also get them to look at<br />
England &amp; Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005</p>
<p>The years 1916-1968 do not show any birth year and yet the age at death is in the detail. The Deaths in the other database 1837-1915 can be searched with birth year but this does not work in 1916-1968 block which must make many customers think their ancestor is not there. </p>
<p>Also the Year of death registration shows BUT not the months &#8211; yet the heading is &#8220;Death Registration Month/Year&#8221; </p>
<p>Please have the structure of this database checked and re-built as needed.<br />
It really does not look very professional.</p>
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		<title>By: Ancestry.com.au</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ancestry.com/au/2011/01/17/ancestry-search-improvements-to-basic-search/comment-page-1/#comment-722</link>
		<dc:creator>Ancestry.com.au</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 23:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ron. Thank you so much for your feedback and for bringing this issue to our attention. We have passed your comments on to our Search team so they can investigate further.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ron. Thank you so much for your feedback and for bringing this issue to our attention. We have passed your comments on to our Search team so they can investigate further.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Lankshear</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ancestry.com/au/2011/01/17/ancestry-search-improvements-to-basic-search/comment-page-1/#comment-719</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Lankshear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 08:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could you please look at a search problem that has appeared recently - the search used to make sense but now there are too just too many hits. 
The problem seems to affect all the databases in the BMD UK collection.
Here are some examples

Old Search with Exact ticked

London Marriages 
search for name John Lankshear
result 48 records
I expected this to be for any marriage of a John Lankshear
but only 6 of the 48 are for a John and of course also another 6 repeated as spouse name is John Lankshear.
that leaves 36 which are not John Lankshear getting married
of these in 8 the father is John Lankshear - if I wanted these I could put John Lankshear in the father field.
The remaining 24 are where the spouse not a Lankshear has the name John or the father of not a Lankshear is John


which include Charles John Causley 25 Dec 1915	to Lottie Ellen Lankshear	
very good to see my Aunt&#039;s marriage but how does it meet a search for name John Lankshear - her father is Thomas.

In new search same search has 24 results - at least the marriages when no John Lankshear is involved are not shown BUT the marriages in which John is a father are shown. This is better than the results in Old Search but still conflicts with what the fields seem to mean. 

of Course my name is fairly unique but when you start getting into more widely used surnames the results list are large. The precision I expect from the search is lost.

One more example London BMB 1538-1812
Charlotte Parker gives 54 results in New Search - 9 are where a Charlotte is mother. 

In Old Search results are 63 - extras seem to be where mother is Charlotte but not shown as Parker. Presumably Old Search assumes mother is a Parker and adds it in. This seems strange that new search does not show these. 
There is also a Charlotte Shuttleton marriage to a John Parker. Ok She becomes Mrs Parker 

Please can we fix the BMD search so that name means the main person in the event and father, mother etc are not added to the results but I wanted marriages of Charlotte Parker not those who become Parker</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could you please look at a search problem that has appeared recently &#8211; the search used to make sense but now there are too just too many hits.<br />
The problem seems to affect all the databases in the BMD UK collection.<br />
Here are some examples</p>
<p>Old Search with Exact ticked</p>
<p>London Marriages<br />
search for name John Lankshear<br />
result 48 records<br />
I expected this to be for any marriage of a John Lankshear<br />
but only 6 of the 48 are for a John and of course also another 6 repeated as spouse name is John Lankshear.<br />
that leaves 36 which are not John Lankshear getting married<br />
of these in 8 the father is John Lankshear &#8211; if I wanted these I could put John Lankshear in the father field.<br />
The remaining 24 are where the spouse not a Lankshear has the name John or the father of not a Lankshear is John</p>
<p>which include Charles John Causley 25 Dec 1915	to Lottie Ellen Lankshear<br />
very good to see my Aunt&#8217;s marriage but how does it meet a search for name John Lankshear &#8211; her father is Thomas.</p>
<p>In new search same search has 24 results &#8211; at least the marriages when no John Lankshear is involved are not shown BUT the marriages in which John is a father are shown. This is better than the results in Old Search but still conflicts with what the fields seem to mean. </p>
<p>of Course my name is fairly unique but when you start getting into more widely used surnames the results list are large. The precision I expect from the search is lost.</p>
<p>One more example London BMB 1538-1812<br />
Charlotte Parker gives 54 results in New Search &#8211; 9 are where a Charlotte is mother. </p>
<p>In Old Search results are 63 &#8211; extras seem to be where mother is Charlotte but not shown as Parker. Presumably Old Search assumes mother is a Parker and adds it in. This seems strange that new search does not show these.<br />
There is also a Charlotte Shuttleton marriage to a John Parker. Ok She becomes Mrs Parker </p>
<p>Please can we fix the BMD search so that name means the main person in the event and father, mother etc are not added to the results but I wanted marriages of Charlotte Parker not those who become Parker</p>
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		<title>By: Margo Canavan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ancestry.com/au/2011/01/17/ancestry-search-improvements-to-basic-search/comment-page-1/#comment-702</link>
		<dc:creator>Margo Canavan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that all sounds good but what about people who changed their names, as eg convicts when free did.
Another example I have a ggf born and married as one surname, known as another for at least 40 years and died and buried as ?????
My FIL born one name changed his name by common usage in 1940&#039;s
 This name thing creates enormous challenges</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that all sounds good but what about people who changed their names, as eg convicts when free did.<br />
Another example I have a ggf born and married as one surname, known as another for at least 40 years and died and buried as ?????<br />
My FIL born one name changed his name by common usage in 1940&#8242;s<br />
 This name thing creates enormous challenges</p>
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		<title>By: Margaret Czora</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ancestry.com/au/2011/01/17/ancestry-search-improvements-to-basic-search/comment-page-1/#comment-694</link>
		<dc:creator>Margaret Czora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 05:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sounds good :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sounds good <img src='http://blogs.ancestry.com/au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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