Comments on: Ask Ancestry Anne: Occupation Concubine? http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2013/08/02/ask-ancestry-anne-occupation-concubine/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=ask-ancestry-anne-occupation-concubine The official blog of Ancestry.com Thu, 24 Apr 2014 16:20:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: JADhttp://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2013/08/02/ask-ancestry-anne-occupation-concubine/#comment-224925 JAD Mon, 07 Apr 2014 18:00:23 +0000 http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/?p=11044#comment-224925 If your brick wall ancestor was from the south, known for using double names i.e. Billy Bob, Mary Sue, etc. you might try checking for use of the middle name as the leading one. One of our gfathers Joseph Goodman Younger, who served in the Civil War where there must have been thousands of Josephs, apparently went by the name Goodman even after the war and his relocation to Tennessee. So much so, in fact, that when we finally found his grave the stone said G. J. Younger.

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By: Benson Joneshttp://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2013/08/02/ask-ancestry-anne-occupation-concubine/#comment-169671 Benson Jones Tue, 17 Dec 2013 03:49:06 +0000 http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/?p=11044#comment-169671 I have been unable to locate the grave of my ancestor Nimrod Moore, born in Maryland in 1775, moved to Rockingham, NC and then to Grayson or Carroll County, Virginia about 1805. I want to place a grave marker before I am unable to do so. Please help.

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By: Ashleyhttp://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2013/08/02/ask-ancestry-anne-occupation-concubine/#comment-168338 Ashley Sat, 14 Dec 2013 01:07:01 +0000 http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/?p=11044#comment-168338 I would be investigating an Eli Wagoner who shows up in Indiana in 1880. Born almost the same year and in NC. He is married with five children, all under the age of 10. It seems like a promising match…

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1880usfedcen&h=19462338&indiv=try&o_vc=

Good luck!

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By: Paula Tillmanhttp://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2013/08/02/ask-ancestry-anne-occupation-concubine/#comment-165105 Paula Tillman Fri, 06 Dec 2013 00:50:02 +0000 http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/?p=11044#comment-165105 I have been searching for information on my great great grandmother, Kate Brown Golding for years now. In the past year or so that I have been a member of ancestry, I have found a few census records that have listed her and my great great grandfather, Henry Golding/Golden and their two children Walter and Fred living in Maine. Unfortunately, none of the available records (marriage, death) tells me anything further about where she came from. I don’t know the names of her parents, only that she was from Canada (someone guessed on the death certificate and said Ontario or Quebec). Kate Brown is such a common name (I have also tried Catherine Brown) that I have a hard time knowing if it is my GG grandmother. I have searched both Quebec and Ontario census records and I found someone who could be her, who was a servant living in Hamilton, Ontario. What is even more frustrating is that census records, death record, and tombstone dates don’t match. I have no exact date of birth for her, but piecing it together I believe that she was born sometime between 1849-1853. She died 7/3/1907 in Gray, ME but she has no obituary. I also could not find any birth records for Walter or Fred, who were both born in Pownal, ME. Walter is my great grandfather and he was born in Jan of 1882. My great great grandfather, Henry was born in England in 1845 and came to the states in 1871 via Boston. Henry and Kate were married in Freeport, ME in a civil ceremony and they did not have a marriage certificate, just a short declaration of marriage in a book of marriages. Any suggestions, I would be grateful! She is truly my brick wall!

Paula

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By: Ann Perchahttp://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2013/08/02/ask-ancestry-anne-occupation-concubine/#comment-118989 Ann Percha Sat, 24 Aug 2013 20:46:49 +0000 http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/?p=11044#comment-118989 My dad’s paternal side of the family is really a mess. For instance, his father was told(by his father)that when he, meaning my granddad, was 5 or 6 years old, his mother had another baby boy, Robert. A few days after Robert’s birth, his mother took Robert and disappeared. His father would never tell him his mother’s name, just that she loved Robert more than she loved Bill. Granddad never tried to find his mother, but when he grew up he tried to find Robert. This was long before the days of computers. It was impossible for him to find Robert Mills. I found out in 1991 that it wasn’t his mother who left, taking the baby. It was his father who left, taking Granddad. And Granddad’s brother’s name was not Robert. It was Loranzy. A lie his father told to keep him from finding his brother or mother. What I really need help with, though, is the name of my g g grandmother. The mother of the horrible man who would lie to his own child. I know that her 1st name was Rebecca. And that she was married to William Mills. But, there are so many disagreements about this woman. And, actually William, himself, too. Some people say that she was Rebecca Stancell/Stansel. Others claim that no, this Rebecca was Rebecca Jane Brooks. I have found wedding licenses for both Rebeccas to have married William Millses. Will you please explain how I can be sure which William and which Rebecca are MY ancestors? I have been working on this family since I was 14, always getting distracted by other branches of the family tree and even by nature. but, now that my 2nd grandchild is due in a few weeks, I need to get this in gear.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ANY HELP YOU CAN GIVE ME. ANN

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By: Leslie Haleyhttp://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2013/08/02/ask-ancestry-anne-occupation-concubine/#comment-114108 Leslie Haley Mon, 12 Aug 2013 07:26:44 +0000 http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/?p=11044#comment-114108 Aloha, I was adopted in 1964(b1963), and brought to hawaii, I have found my birth mother who has long since passed and would like to find my father , my parents were not married to each other, my mother worked for my father, I figure I should try to find where she worked at that time, how should I do that? MahaloI for your help:)

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By: Regina Madlemhttp://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2013/08/02/ask-ancestry-anne-occupation-concubine/#comment-113965 Regina Madlem Sun, 11 Aug 2013 18:37:40 +0000 http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/?p=11044#comment-113965 We must remember that the information contained in census documents (as well as death certificates) is being provided under many different circumstances, and by whomever was available in the household or neighborhood to provide the information. Since the census taker was arriving during the course of the working day, anyone who would be employed or in school was not available to provide the information. So it was frequently given by young siblings just old enough to speak, caregivers, uneducated spouses, healthcare workers, handymen, neighbors, etc., not necessarily the individuals themselves. The quality of the information recorded was only as accurate as the information provided.

In one instance of my research, it was very evident that the provider of information in one very large family had an obvious speech impediment, causing each and every name to be recorded in some hilariously mangled manner. I have also found an occasional census that had, in my opinion, been recorded by a man who obviously had a hearing problem, as most of the names in his entire collection was recorded with recurring errors explained only logically by that conclusion.

There were always many individuals throughout history who were so distrustful of any attempt by the government to collect even the most rudimentary information on them, they adamantly refused to answer census takers questions, or simply turned the dogs or shotguns on them, so that no information is available on that particular person, or persons, especially if they felt any of their personal activities could become suspect. Coming from Kentucky lineage, I can attest to families who feared census information could be used to collect “revenue” (taxes), or shut down illegal distillery operations (moon shining), or cost them “rations” or pensions if someone told that grandpa was not living with them anymore.

We must also take into account that verbiage from over a hundred years ago does not mean the same thing as it does today, so researching terminology from the past and applying it under those terms is necessary in order to get a complete picture of a certain situation. We must also realize that this was not a projection of personal opinion, but the norm for the times, as well as geographical location. These census takers were trained and given guidelines before they ventured out into communities, so were simply following instructions.

I can’t imagine a more tedious job, at the time!

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By: Regina Madlemhttp://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2013/08/02/ask-ancestry-anne-occupation-concubine/#comment-113933 Regina Madlem Sun, 11 Aug 2013 15:23:32 +0000 http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/?p=11044#comment-113933 If this were a case in which I were involved, I would find the children’s deth certificates, if possible, to see who is listed as their father on that document. While not necessarily conclusive, it might provide additional information that would answer many of the questions posed here regarding Sarah, Eli, and James.

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By: Alvie L. Davidson CGhttp://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2013/08/02/ask-ancestry-anne-occupation-concubine/#comment-113579 Alvie L. Davidson CG Sat, 10 Aug 2013 14:19:44 +0000 http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/?p=11044#comment-113579 Rent the movie named “Heartland” starring Rip Torn and Conchitta Ferrell. It wil give you a good picture of this situation. Conchitta was his housekeeper but the census taker could have put anything. She later married him. Very good and historically accurate.

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By: Cathy ettorrehttp://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2013/08/02/ask-ancestry-anne-occupation-concubine/#comment-113434 Cathy ettorre Sat, 10 Aug 2013 00:00:50 +0000 http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/?p=11044#comment-113434 The term”idiot” in the census records is not generally regarded as a mean spirited, derogatory comment as it is so often used today. It was the “legal” or accepted terminology of the times to describe a person who was mentally retarded or mentally damaged in some way. Either from birth or otherwise. It was treated simply as a fact and used in the census records right along side “can you read or write English”, “what grade did you finish in school”, are you deaf, dumb, etc. If someone is listed by the census taker as “idiot” it most certainly refers to some form of mental illness.

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