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	<title>Comments on: Kris Williams: The Genealogy Grinch</title>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2012/12/20/kris-williams-the-genealogy-grinch/#comment-72865</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 22:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The same thing happened to me. There are several family members that have all of the documents and pictures but refuse to share. They act all paranoid if I ask to see them. They, on the other hand, have demanded that I turn over to them everything I have.
But alas and anon, I have been experiencing the problem with the greedy gumps on line too. Sadly I no longer answer my messages from people seeking information. There have been a few that were very nice to exchange info with, but, there are quite a number who were just down right rude in their inquiries. I have exchanged information when requested only to be met with silence. There were others that requested to see my tree (it&#039;s private), so I allow them access...never hear from them again.
By the way, my tree is private because I am not 100% certain about some of the information. 
I would also like to thank those who went before me and did the lions share of research. It&#039;s because of you that I was able to scale those brick walls and continue on my hunt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The same thing happened to me. There are several family members that have all of the documents and pictures but refuse to share. They act all paranoid if I ask to see them. They, on the other hand, have demanded that I turn over to them everything I have.<br />
But alas and anon, I have been experiencing the problem with the greedy gumps on line too. Sadly I no longer answer my messages from people seeking information. There have been a few that were very nice to exchange info with, but, there are quite a number who were just down right rude in their inquiries. I have exchanged information when requested only to be met with silence. There were others that requested to see my tree (it&#8217;s private), so I allow them access&#8230;never hear from them again.<br />
By the way, my tree is private because I am not 100% certain about some of the information.<br />
I would also like to thank those who went before me and did the lions share of research. It&#8217;s because of you that I was able to scale those brick walls and continue on my hunt.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2012/12/20/kris-williams-the-genealogy-grinch/#comment-68090</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2013 03:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to say thank you to the non-grinches. I&#039;ve found almost 200 pictures on ancestry.com of distant relatives that died before I was even thought of. I&#039;m doing my trees for my grandparents, and the whole point of finding these is for them.

I have a second cousin who has all of my great-grandmother&#039;s pictures (including old photos of my grandpa&#039;s siblings, namely his brother who died in childhood) and she flat out refuses to let me see make copies. I can almost understand why she doesn&#039;t care if I get to see my great-uncles.. what I don&#039;t understand is why she thinks my grandfather doesn&#039;t deserve pictures of his own brother.

So, she is the reason why my tree, every picture I manage to find, and every document I get my hands on (whether I paid for it or not) will ALWAYS be public. And I truly hope she sees this comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to say thank you to the non-grinches. I&#8217;ve found almost 200 pictures on ancestry.com of distant relatives that died before I was even thought of. I&#8217;m doing my trees for my grandparents, and the whole point of finding these is for them.</p>
<p>I have a second cousin who has all of my great-grandmother&#8217;s pictures (including old photos of my grandpa&#8217;s siblings, namely his brother who died in childhood) and she flat out refuses to let me see make copies. I can almost understand why she doesn&#8217;t care if I get to see my great-uncles.. what I don&#8217;t understand is why she thinks my grandfather doesn&#8217;t deserve pictures of his own brother.</p>
<p>So, she is the reason why my tree, every picture I manage to find, and every document I get my hands on (whether I paid for it or not) will ALWAYS be public. And I truly hope she sees this comment.</p>
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		<title>By: David Marshall Pilgrim</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2012/12/20/kris-williams-the-genealogy-grinch/#comment-63580</link>
		<dc:creator>David Marshall Pilgrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2013 15:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am having an issue with this as well. Unfortunately, since I have been researching our family, I have had people make their sites non public, that were public. It is strange that they wouldn&#039;t want to share family history. I recently found that my grandmother on my fathers side died in a murder suicide. I now am starting to understand why there may be some reluctance to share information. I never met my grandmother. Have a good day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am having an issue with this as well. Unfortunately, since I have been researching our family, I have had people make their sites non public, that were public. It is strange that they wouldn&#8217;t want to share family history. I recently found that my grandmother on my fathers side died in a murder suicide. I now am starting to understand why there may be some reluctance to share information. I never met my grandmother. Have a good day.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 14:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started working on my various family trees about three years ago.  I was a total novice and have learned a lot along the way.  I&#039;m a very maticulous researcher but I also know when to make educated guesses.  I&#039;ve only had one or two folks who have called me out on info that I have in my tree and all but one has been very respectful when doing so.  What I try to do is make notes on any fact that I add that isn&#039;t necessarily proven.  Therefore, when someone looks at it, they understand why I made the educated guess that I did.  This helps a lot and I wish more folks would do this.  

Two of my three trees are public.  I even share my living folks with those that are family and have trees with extensive work on Ancestry.com.  And they have been gracious enough to do the same with me.  It has been so helpful and has enabled me to make connections with the distant cousins I need to fill in the blanks.  

I believe in sharing everything.  I don&#039;t care if I paid for it or not.  If I paid for something like a death certificate, it was because I needed the info on it.  I might as well share with others who probably hit the dead end I did.  I would hope others would do the same.  And I do try to give credit to others when posting pics and documents but I&#039;m not always perfect about it.  For instance, photo&#039;s from the Find-a-Grave website are very useful to me.  When I copy them, I note on the pic that it came from Find-a-Grave.  I don&#039;t take the time to document the person&#039;s name that took it.  Maybe I should but it&#039;s too time consuming.  Some would be mad at that but I feel as long as I&#039;m crediting the basic source, I&#039;m being respectful.  I would encourage others to do the same but I would say to those who get so bent out of shape to relax a little.

And finally, my third tree that is marked private was done for one reason, that I&#039;m so dissappointed about.  I was adopted.  And I have a tree on my biological family.  When I enter my biological parents, and you look at &quot;my&quot; profile page, it looks to some like they these parents were married, which was not the case.  You only get the real story by looking at either parent.  Then you can see that they have seperate families.  Ancestry.com should make some way to make this view different.  Having said that, a family member didn&#039;t like it, even though it is all completely factual and I had to mark it private.  

We&#039;ve all had our geneology grinches.  I think the most important thing we can all do is share and give eachother a break.  No one is perfect it what they do but as long as folks are trying their best, let&#039;s not judge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started working on my various family trees about three years ago.  I was a total novice and have learned a lot along the way.  I&#8217;m a very maticulous researcher but I also know when to make educated guesses.  I&#8217;ve only had one or two folks who have called me out on info that I have in my tree and all but one has been very respectful when doing so.  What I try to do is make notes on any fact that I add that isn&#8217;t necessarily proven.  Therefore, when someone looks at it, they understand why I made the educated guess that I did.  This helps a lot and I wish more folks would do this.  </p>
<p>Two of my three trees are public.  I even share my living folks with those that are family and have trees with extensive work on Ancestry.com.  And they have been gracious enough to do the same with me.  It has been so helpful and has enabled me to make connections with the distant cousins I need to fill in the blanks.  </p>
<p>I believe in sharing everything.  I don&#8217;t care if I paid for it or not.  If I paid for something like a death certificate, it was because I needed the info on it.  I might as well share with others who probably hit the dead end I did.  I would hope others would do the same.  And I do try to give credit to others when posting pics and documents but I&#8217;m not always perfect about it.  For instance, photo&#8217;s from the Find-a-Grave website are very useful to me.  When I copy them, I note on the pic that it came from Find-a-Grave.  I don&#8217;t take the time to document the person&#8217;s name that took it.  Maybe I should but it&#8217;s too time consuming.  Some would be mad at that but I feel as long as I&#8217;m crediting the basic source, I&#8217;m being respectful.  I would encourage others to do the same but I would say to those who get so bent out of shape to relax a little.</p>
<p>And finally, my third tree that is marked private was done for one reason, that I&#8217;m so dissappointed about.  I was adopted.  And I have a tree on my biological family.  When I enter my biological parents, and you look at &#8220;my&#8221; profile page, it looks to some like they these parents were married, which was not the case.  You only get the real story by looking at either parent.  Then you can see that they have seperate families.  Ancestry.com should make some way to make this view different.  Having said that, a family member didn&#8217;t like it, even though it is all completely factual and I had to mark it private.  </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve all had our geneology grinches.  I think the most important thing we can all do is share and give eachother a break.  No one is perfect it what they do but as long as folks are trying their best, let&#8217;s not judge.</p>
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		<title>By: Niwilli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niwilli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 01:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Gary. Ancestry refuses to include functionality to make individual photos, docs, etc private. Therefore the only option is to mark the entire tree private which I don&#039;t like to do. Ancestry.com shares much of this grinch blame by not including enough privacy options other than the all or nothing approach.

I too hate people who grab from my tree with no introduction, no hello no nothing. I think it&#039;s important to keep trees public, minus the living people, but we should be able to control access to photos and docs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Gary. Ancestry refuses to include functionality to make individual photos, docs, etc private. Therefore the only option is to mark the entire tree private which I don&#8217;t like to do. Ancestry.com shares much of this grinch blame by not including enough privacy options other than the all or nothing approach.</p>
<p>I too hate people who grab from my tree with no introduction, no hello no nothing. I think it&#8217;s important to keep trees public, minus the living people, but we should be able to control access to photos and docs.</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2012/12/20/kris-williams-the-genealogy-grinch/#comment-62259</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 23:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree we are surrounded by Grinches.  I always share.  I&#039;ve been researching several family trees for over 10 years.  One long distant cousin will not share pictures of my grandparents but she asks for anything I have.  We disagree on the spelling of my Dad&#039;s grandmother;s name so she doesn&#039;t want to share.  My Dad is the only one living that remembers her and someone my cousin never even met, he verified the name.  I work around her and will someday come in contact with the same pictures she has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree we are surrounded by Grinches.  I always share.  I&#8217;ve been researching several family trees for over 10 years.  One long distant cousin will not share pictures of my grandparents but she asks for anything I have.  We disagree on the spelling of my Dad&#8217;s grandmother;s name so she doesn&#8217;t want to share.  My Dad is the only one living that remembers her and someone my cousin never even met, he verified the name.  I work around her and will someday come in contact with the same pictures she has.</p>
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		<title>By: A.J.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2012/12/20/kris-williams-the-genealogy-grinch/#comment-62257</link>
		<dc:creator>A.J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 23:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is nothing to stop anyone with private trees from creating a public version of your tree minus the living people, photographs, documents, speculative info etc.

Also, the &quot;garbage&quot; trees with incorrect information will always be on ancestry.
Those of us who provide proper documentation will stand out from the wannabees.

I would like to think that 100 years after I am gone, my cousins who see my tree on the internet would be grateful to know something about their most distant ancestors.

Does anyone here who has worked hard on their genealogy for years want their family tree information to go to the grave with them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing to stop anyone with private trees from creating a public version of your tree minus the living people, photographs, documents, speculative info etc.</p>
<p>Also, the &#8220;garbage&#8221; trees with incorrect information will always be on ancestry.<br />
Those of us who provide proper documentation will stand out from the wannabees.</p>
<p>I would like to think that 100 years after I am gone, my cousins who see my tree on the internet would be grateful to know something about their most distant ancestors.</p>
<p>Does anyone here who has worked hard on their genealogy for years want their family tree information to go to the grave with them?</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 19:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have requested that Ancestry add the functionality to make individual photos/docs private.  This would solve a lot of problems, and would be easy to implement.  They keep living people hidden in public trees, and added the living/deceased toggle option.  Not sure why they won&#039;t do this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have requested that Ancestry add the functionality to make individual photos/docs private.  This would solve a lot of problems, and would be easy to implement.  They keep living people hidden in public trees, and added the living/deceased toggle option.  Not sure why they won&#8217;t do this.</p>
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		<title>By: Kerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 18:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree generally with the &quot;reluctant&quot; grinches. I have generally shared, and have run into some long lost cousins-particularly on one branch.  But I also agree with Mary.  I have been doing this since before the internet, and since the advent of ancestry.com have seen deplorable work that passes for research, when it is obviously someone&#039;s &quot;cut and paste&quot; project perpetuating errors.  As the ONLY descendant (and my siblings) of one branch, I have repeatedly asked for corrections and been ignored.  I keep my tree private because until I can document each line, and I can publish, I will not have a free for all.  Some of this research I have paid for-which everyone else can do as well.  Perhaps ancestry can find a way of categorizing serious researchers from garbage promulgators.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree generally with the &#8220;reluctant&#8221; grinches. I have generally shared, and have run into some long lost cousins-particularly on one branch.  But I also agree with Mary.  I have been doing this since before the internet, and since the advent of ancestry.com have seen deplorable work that passes for research, when it is obviously someone&#8217;s &#8220;cut and paste&#8221; project perpetuating errors.  As the ONLY descendant (and my siblings) of one branch, I have repeatedly asked for corrections and been ignored.  I keep my tree private because until I can document each line, and I can publish, I will not have a free for all.  Some of this research I have paid for-which everyone else can do as well.  Perhaps ancestry can find a way of categorizing serious researchers from garbage promulgators.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 02:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said cousin Kris...I have had amazing luck sharing information with cousins I have never met.  My cousin Arthur even sent me copies of photos of grandparents, dating from the 1860&#039;s, something I never would have seen otherwise.  I am a firm believer in sharing and my tree will always be public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said cousin Kris&#8230;I have had amazing luck sharing information with cousins I have never met.  My cousin Arthur even sent me copies of photos of grandparents, dating from the 1860&#8242;s, something I never would have seen otherwise.  I am a firm believer in sharing and my tree will always be public.</p>
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