Comments on: Living people in your family tree http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2012/04/12/living-people-in-your-family-tree/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=living-people-in-your-family-tree The official blog of Ancestry Sat, 31 Jan 2015 02:43:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: Karenhttp://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2012/04/12/living-people-in-your-family-tree/#comment-56634 Karen Fri, 17 Aug 2012 02:20:22 +0000 http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/?p=7327#comment-56634 I find Ancestry a great way to research public records. However, I am not happy how living people are listed by name, birth and marriage dates in family trees.

I am also very disapointed in that is seems many are posting incorrect information. I have found lines I am researching and found incorrect birth, marriage and death dates not to mention incorrect given, middle and surnames. I know this to be true as I have done much of my resarch the ‘old fashioned’ way–going to the county clerk’s office and searching the record books.

It would appear that many are more interested in how fast they can ‘grow’ their family tree and take information at face value witout verifying the source. I don’t think the few that do this really care about others, their privacy, or ensuring that the correct information is posted. Genealogists like this are not doing anyone a favor and in the end only hurt themselves as their credibility is ruined and no one will share information with them for fear it will be posted incorrectly and their name attached to it.

Isn’t there a disclaimer that can or should be added to a family tree when uploaded by GEDcom to Ancestry?

Ancestry, I like much about your website, but the family tree postings really need to be cleaned up and done correctly. You have members that are disregarding the rules and hurting others. I know–I’ve had living family listed as dead, living listed by name with dates, and nothing has been done to correct it by the owner of the posting or by you. In this respect, I am truly disappointed in you and your website.

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By: Darlene E. Millerhttp://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2012/04/12/living-people-in-your-family-tree/#comment-55074 Darlene E. Miller Sat, 21 Apr 2012 17:47:00 +0000 http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/?p=7327#comment-55074 Second Thoughts.

If the family material is so painful to the family, it would probably be better to not mention the individuals at all, until they’re less sensative. Keep your own data base the way you want it, but definately don’t list a lot of the family info on a public format, because it is “Public”.

Respectfully,

Darlene E. Miller

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By: Darlene E. Millerhttp://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2012/04/12/living-people-in-your-family-tree/#comment-55073 Darlene E. Miller Sat, 21 Apr 2012 17:31:43 +0000 http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/?p=7327#comment-55073 This “Living” and “Private” designation is applied rather broadly by most people. The object of family trees, is to share information. When it comes to names, birthdates, marriages and deaths. These actions are backed up by “Public” records, whose documents everyone has access to. The way I understand things, no one can have a patient for any of the mentioned happenings in a persons life.

Personally, when I run into the “Living” or “Private” designation. As an example, I will summerize in my data base: 5 unnamed boys, 5 unnamed girls, because I choose not to overload the space on my harddrive, where the genealogy program I’m useing (FTM) allots lines of spec, even for this blank material beyond names etc.

There is a family upset with me, because I located and applied information from a census report to fill in blanks listed as “Living” and “Private”. Even the president of the US cannot stop people viewing and gathering information from these documents. I appologize for the upset, but I’m not sorry about using census reports to fill in these sorts of blanks.

I do appreciate all of you fine workers and your company. Thankyou for being there for everyone.

Respectfully,

Darlene E. Miller

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By: George Rodrigohttp://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2012/04/12/living-people-in-your-family-tree/#comment-55069 George Rodrigo Sat, 21 Apr 2012 08:53:33 +0000 http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/?p=7327#comment-55069 It’s nice to take a vacation once in a while because this gives you physical and mental refreshment. I can still remember my unforgettable experience when I was in Bantayan Island. The place was indescribable. The surroundings were rare, pleasant to your soul.

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By: Monikahttp://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2012/04/12/living-people-in-your-family-tree/#comment-55024 Monika Fri, 20 Apr 2012 07:44:36 +0000 http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/?p=7327#comment-55024 Ooops! Fingers too fast, brain too slow: I meant to say “Even though it is public data, that person, most likely, would not have gone out of her way to find it IF it were more difficult to find.”

Also, as an aside, that person bought my e-mail address from the Intellius service (it was an outdated e-mail address, but her e-mail reached me anyway) because she was so furious about being asked to show me as living. The text of the e-mail read “I am standing in front of your home. Ask me how many lights are on in your house right now, you bitch? And I have lots of relatives living all around you!” These are the type of people you are helping obtain information about the living under the pretext that it is public information. (Not even smart enough to realize that her profile reveals that she is from out of state!)

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By: Monikahttp://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2012/04/12/living-people-in-your-family-tree/#comment-55023 Monika Fri, 20 Apr 2012 07:30:25 +0000 http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/?p=7327#comment-55023 Aaron,
I appreciate your comments as well, and must admit that I am conflicted about your providing easy access to information about the living. Yes, this information is PUBLIC information. But, do you really have to hand it to us on a silver platter? I would rather that–if people want to have information about me–people have to go out of their way to find that public data. I was recently shocked to find a public tree that had decided to show me as deceased and that this tree holder had found my naturalization papers and much other data about me on ancestry.com. Even though it is public data, that person, most likely would not have gone out of her way to find it it were more difficult to find. In a day and age where identity theft is so prevalent, for an individual who is barely related to me (and that only through marriage) to have this much data on me does feel uncomfortable. And, I had to work my way through several layers of people at ACOM’s member services before I stopped hearing “we do not manage people’s trees”. (When I asked that person not to show me as deceased, she wrote back that I should mind my own business!) In our meeting at the genealogical society tonight we were made aware that familysearch.org will not permit you to download a gedcom file that contains living individuals onto familysearch.org. They are concerned about this data being misused by identity thieves. I must say I appreciate that idea! After all, the purpose of genealogy is to find your ancestors, not living individuals.

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By: scwbcmhttp://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2012/04/12/living-people-in-your-family-tree/#comment-54997 scwbcm Thu, 19 Apr 2012 17:30:11 +0000 http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/?p=7327#comment-54997 I appreciate your work on this and that you took the time to respond.

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By: Irenehttp://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2012/04/12/living-people-in-your-family-tree/#comment-54996 Irene Thu, 19 Apr 2012 15:07:56 +0000 http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/?p=7327#comment-54996 Thank you, Aaron!

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By: Andy Hatchetthttp://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2012/04/12/living-people-in-your-family-tree/#comment-54983 Andy Hatchett Thu, 19 Apr 2012 02:32:04 +0000 http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/?p=7327#comment-54983 Aaron,

Thanks for responding, it is much appreciated. Far too often a Blog article is posted and comments made about it but the author of the Blog article never bothers to respond to those comments.

It makes it appear that we are simply yelling into a black hole and hearing nothing but our own echo.

Andy Hatchett
http://www.fhiso.org

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By: Aaron Orrhttp://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2012/04/12/living-people-in-your-family-tree/#comment-54970 Aaron Orr Wed, 18 Apr 2012 15:50:07 +0000 http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/?p=7327#comment-54970 Glad to see the all the response to this article! I’ll do my best to address some of the questions and concerns which have been raised.

• Finding information about living people in historical record collections: In our extensive databases you may find information about living individuals; quite often this is information that has been made public by government institutions or other groups. Before we publish information on our site, we consider many different rules, regulations, and legislation, so we can be thoughtful and responsible in our approach. That said; if you find a record about yourself or your living family that you are uncomfortable with please contact Member Services.

• Do we hint information about living individuals? We only hint information about living people if it is from one of our historical record collections which contain living information. We do not hint information you enter about living people.

• Irene – you asked if there’s a way to see a list of living individuals; currently there’s not, but this is a great idea which we’ll consider for future improvements.

• Tricia – I’d love to learn more about what you’re experiencing, I’ll email you to get more information.

Thanks again for all your comments!

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