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	<title>Comments on: In Memory of Elizabeth Taylor, 1932–2011</title>
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		<title>By: Florene Kunder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Florene Kunder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 18:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elizabeth Taylor was an actress of note and known worldwide.  Many loved her.  Her birthdate may be of factual interest, but not so relevant an issue in a tribute.

In my limited 3 years of genealogical research, I discovered two close family members who played with their dates of birth, much to my frustration in doing research, but a delightful flight of fantasy for those responsible.  My mother was one.  She was born in 1899, but didn&#039;t like the &quot;sound&quot; of that date, so she
selected 1900 to be the year.  She could do that without creating problems for  herself.... prior to Social Security, and other date-based official records.  Came the day of reckoning when she reached age 65.  It was fixed, with the help of her cousin Senator John Sparkman, and all lived happily thereafter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elizabeth Taylor was an actress of note and known worldwide.  Many loved her.  Her birthdate may be of factual interest, but not so relevant an issue in a tribute.</p>
<p>In my limited 3 years of genealogical research, I discovered two close family members who played with their dates of birth, much to my frustration in doing research, but a delightful flight of fantasy for those responsible.  My mother was one.  She was born in 1899, but didn&#8217;t like the &#8220;sound&#8221; of that date, so she<br />
selected 1900 to be the year.  She could do that without creating problems for  herself&#8230;. prior to Social Security, and other date-based official records.  Came the day of reckoning when she reached age 65.  It was fixed, with the help of her cousin Senator John Sparkman, and all lived happily thereafter.</p>
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		<title>By: Phyllis Friesner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phyllis Friesner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 00:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elizabeth was the most beautiful young woman I ever saw in my life.  I did not know her personally but she must have had a lot of conflicts in her life.  I am very sad she has passed away as it seems we have seen her forever and I am just a few years younger than she was.  I cannot remember in my life that I did not see her pictures, see her on tv on commercials, movies, magazines, You name it, she was there.  I think her beauty gave her many opportunities in life, more so than her acting. I feel like we have lost a friend.  A friend who did not mind being out there for all of us to see.  She had hard times in her love life and ill a lot.  God Bless You Elizabeth and God Speed.  Phyllis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elizabeth was the most beautiful young woman I ever saw in my life.  I did not know her personally but she must have had a lot of conflicts in her life.  I am very sad she has passed away as it seems we have seen her forever and I am just a few years younger than she was.  I cannot remember in my life that I did not see her pictures, see her on tv on commercials, movies, magazines, You name it, she was there.  I think her beauty gave her many opportunities in life, more so than her acting. I feel like we have lost a friend.  A friend who did not mind being out there for all of us to see.  She had hard times in her love life and ill a lot.  God Bless You Elizabeth and God Speed.  Phyllis</p>
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		<title>By: martha c hudgins</title>
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		<dc:creator>martha c hudgins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 19:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am glad Ancestry opened a way for us to express our thought and memories...it helps to have a place to put these thoughts.
if email and all were available when elvis died, that surely would haave been a good thing.
i don&#039;t follow movies but i would have to to be in a well not o know about Elizabeth. her beauty was in her not just visible to the eye. i admired her loyalty to her friends and did not waver, no matter what the media and fed by the fans . she did this for so many and Michael is just the last one we remember. she loved her children and children knew that. She had a huge heart for love and that is what i remember.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad Ancestry opened a way for us to express our thought and memories&#8230;it helps to have a place to put these thoughts.<br />
if email and all were available when elvis died, that surely would haave been a good thing.<br />
i don&#8217;t follow movies but i would have to to be in a well not o know about Elizabeth. her beauty was in her not just visible to the eye. i admired her loyalty to her friends and did not waver, no matter what the media and fed by the fans . she did this for so many and Michael is just the last one we remember. she loved her children and children knew that. She had a huge heart for love and that is what i remember.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 01:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was  a little girl, I had an Elizabeth Taylor coloring book. She was probably about 22 years of age and I think I was 10. I remember how pretty the drawings were of her and I loved coloring her dresses as they were always so beautiful. I wish I still had that coloring book! She was my one favorite actress I had growing up. She will be missed, but we will always have her in the movies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was  a little girl, I had an Elizabeth Taylor coloring book. She was probably about 22 years of age and I think I was 10. I remember how pretty the drawings were of her and I loved coloring her dresses as they were always so beautiful. I wish I still had that coloring book! She was my one favorite actress I had growing up. She will be missed, but we will always have her in the movies.</p>
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		<title>By: BobNY</title>
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		<dc:creator>BobNY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2011 17:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy,

Basic arithmetic would seem to indicate that someone who is 23 years old on January 1, 1920 would have been born in 1896.

Give it up. This is obviously not your strong suit. BTW, adding new and erroneous information is no response to my prior comment that your own evidence shows her to be inconsistent with stating her age.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy,</p>
<p>Basic arithmetic would seem to indicate that someone who is 23 years old on January 1, 1920 would have been born in 1896.</p>
<p>Give it up. This is obviously not your strong suit. BTW, adding new and erroneous information is no response to my prior comment that your own evidence shows her to be inconsistent with stating her age.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Hatchett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Hatchett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2011 17:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Census records seem to indicate that Elizabeth Taylor&#039;s mother, Sara Warmbrodt Taylor, was born in 1897.

1900 Federal Census - 3 yrs. old=1897
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1900usfedcen&amp;indiv=try&amp;h=16557291

1905 Kansas Census - 8 yrs old=1897
http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&amp;r=an&amp;dbid=1088&amp;iid=ks1905_32-0347&amp;fn=Sarah&amp;ln=Warmbrodt&amp;st=r&amp;ssrc=&amp;pid=4964446

1910 Federal Census - 13 yrs old=1897
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1910USCenIndex&amp;indiv=try&amp;h=132659377

1920 Federal Census - 23 yrs. old=1897
http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&amp;r=an&amp;dbid=6061&amp;iid=4300844_01076&amp;fn=Sarah&amp;ln=Warmbrodt&amp;st=r&amp;ssrc=&amp;pid=64999975

After her marriage to Francis Lenn Taylor in New York in 1926 she and her husband moved to England.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Census records seem to indicate that Elizabeth Taylor&#8217;s mother, Sara Warmbrodt Taylor, was born in 1897.</p>
<p>1900 Federal Census &#8211; 3 yrs. old=1897<br />
<a href="http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1900usfedcen&#038;indiv=try&#038;h=16557291" rel="nofollow">http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1900usfedcen&#038;indiv=try&#038;h=16557291</a></p>
<p>1905 Kansas Census &#8211; 8 yrs old=1897<br />
<a href="http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&#038;r=an&#038;dbid=1088&#038;iid=ks1905_32-0347&#038;fn=Sarah&#038;ln=Warmbrodt&#038;st=r&#038;ssrc=&#038;pid=4964446" rel="nofollow">http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&#038;r=an&#038;dbid=1088&#038;iid=ks1905_32-0347&#038;fn=Sarah&#038;ln=Warmbrodt&#038;st=r&#038;ssrc=&#038;pid=4964446</a></p>
<p>1910 Federal Census &#8211; 13 yrs old=1897<br />
<a href="http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1910USCenIndex&#038;indiv=try&#038;h=132659377" rel="nofollow">http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1910USCenIndex&#038;indiv=try&#038;h=132659377</a></p>
<p>1920 Federal Census &#8211; 23 yrs. old=1897<br />
<a href="http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&#038;r=an&#038;dbid=6061&#038;iid=4300844_01076&#038;fn=Sarah&#038;ln=Warmbrodt&#038;st=r&#038;ssrc=&#038;pid=64999975" rel="nofollow">http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&#038;r=an&#038;dbid=6061&#038;iid=4300844_01076&#038;fn=Sarah&#038;ln=Warmbrodt&#038;st=r&#038;ssrc=&#038;pid=64999975</a></p>
<p>After her marriage to Francis Lenn Taylor in New York in 1926 she and her husband moved to England.</p>
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		<title>By: BobNY</title>
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		<dc:creator>BobNY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try again, Andy. First of all, her name is Sara. Your own &quot;evidence&quot; proves that she was not consistent in reporting her date of birth.

The first 2 results of the search show:
Crossing of 1939: 21 August 1895
Crossing of 1930: 21 August 1896</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try again, Andy. First of all, her name is Sara. Your own &#8220;evidence&#8221; proves that she was not consistent in reporting her date of birth.</p>
<p>The first 2 results of the search show:<br />
Crossing of 1939: 21 August 1895<br />
Crossing of 1930: 21 August 1896</p>
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		<title>By: Jan Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2011 05:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, speaking of typos --

That first sentence was supposed to say: if Sara&#039;s age is consistent in all the passenger lists, then her age as reported on her daughter&#039;s birth certificate is the outlier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, speaking of typos &#8211;</p>
<p>That first sentence was supposed to say: if Sara&#8217;s age is consistent in all the passenger lists, then her age as reported on her daughter&#8217;s birth certificate is the outlier.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2011 05:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: #19 -- nice finds, Andy! 

If the birthdate is consistent in all the passenger lists, then the age on Elizabeth&#039;s birth date is the outlier.  The next question I would ask (note: it&#039;s possible, perhaps likely, that no one alive could know) is how the birth certificates were created.  If, for example, one person took down the information by hand, and a different person typed up the form we see on the computer, transcription errors can creep in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: #19 &#8212; nice finds, Andy! </p>
<p>If the birthdate is consistent in all the passenger lists, then the age on Elizabeth&#8217;s birth date is the outlier.  The next question I would ask (note: it&#8217;s possible, perhaps likely, that no one alive could know) is how the birth certificates were created.  If, for example, one person took down the information by hand, and a different person typed up the form we see on the computer, transcription errors can creep in.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Hatchett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Hatchett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2011 22:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jan Re: # 17

It seems the Taylors made several crossings and Sarah was consistent in her date of birth

See:
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=IMG_PASSLISTS&amp;rank=1&amp;new=1&amp;so=3&amp;MSAV=1&amp;msT=1&amp;gss=ms_r_f-112&amp;gsfn=sarah+w&amp;gsln=taylor&amp;msbdy=1895&amp;msbpn__ftp=Arkansas%2C+USA&amp;msbpn=6&amp;msbpn_PInfo=5-&#124;1652393&#124;2&#124;3246&#124;6&#124;&amp;msapn__ftp=United+States&amp;msapn=2&amp;msapn_PInfo=3-&#124;1652393&#124;2&#124;&amp;msepn__ftp=united+kingdom&amp;cpxt=1&amp;uidh=xd4&amp;cp=0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jan Re: # 17</p>
<p>It seems the Taylors made several crossings and Sarah was consistent in her date of birth</p>
<p>See:<br />
<a href="http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=IMG_PASSLISTS&#038;rank=1&#038;new=1&#038;so=3&#038;MSAV=1&#038;msT=1&#038;gss=ms_r_f-112&#038;gsfn=sarah+w&#038;gsln=taylor&#038;msbdy=1895&#038;msbpn__ftp=Arkansas%2C+USA&#038;msbpn=6&#038;msbpn_PInfo=5-" rel="nofollow">http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=IMG_PASSLISTS&#038;rank=1&#038;new=1&#038;so=3&#038;MSAV=1&#038;msT=1&#038;gss=ms_r_f-112&#038;gsfn=sarah+w&#038;gsln=taylor&#038;msbdy=1895&#038;msbpn__ftp=Arkansas%2C+USA&#038;msbpn=6&#038;msbpn_PInfo=5-</a>|1652393|2|3246|6|&amp;msapn__ftp=United+States&amp;msapn=2&amp;msapn_PInfo=3-|1652393|2|&amp;msepn__ftp=united+kingdom&amp;cpxt=1&amp;uidh=xd4&amp;cp=0</p>
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