Comments on: Social Security Death Index to be Updated Weekly http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2010/03/04/social-security-death-index-to-be-updated-weekly/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=social-security-death-index-to-be-updated-weekly The official blog of Ancestry.com Tue, 29 Jul 2014 04:13:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.2 By: Richard H.http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2010/03/04/social-security-death-index-to-be-updated-weekly/#comment-44854 Richard H. Tue, 09 Mar 2010 03:34:31 +0000 http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/?p=3109#comment-44854 #12 Lynn. I do understand that a computer extract would ‘likely’ not contain all the information in the original SS-5 record. I was hoping someone could share what those differences, if any, actually are.

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By: Jerry Bryanhttp://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2010/03/04/social-security-death-index-to-be-updated-weekly/#comment-44818 Jerry Bryan Mon, 08 Mar 2010 03:49:05 +0000 http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/?p=3109#comment-44818 Andy #14 and Carol #15: thanks for the update. I do use the SSDI from the rootsweb side occasionally, but usually I’m already in ancestry.com and just use Old Search from there (even though I try to use New Search as much as I can for other things). It’s just crazy that the New Search support for the SSDI is so deficient as compared to Old Search and as compared to the rootsweb side. And it’s even crazier that the ancestry.com suggestions for searching the SSDI don’t even work from New Search.

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By: Carol A. H.http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2010/03/04/social-security-death-index-to-be-updated-weekly/#comment-44817 Carol A. H. Mon, 08 Mar 2010 02:00:46 +0000 http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/?p=3109#comment-44817 For what it is worth, here is the site addy from RootsWeb with the advanced search. This one offers you all kinds of options in your search:

http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi

I think this is the one Andy uses.

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By: Andy Hatchetthttp://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2010/03/04/social-security-death-index-to-be-updated-weekly/#comment-44810 Andy Hatchett Sun, 07 Mar 2010 21:38:02 +0000 http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/?p=3109#comment-44810 Jerry,

I search the SSDI from the Rootsweb side.

On the Rootsweb Home Page there is a link to the SSDI-click that.

When the search screen comes up click the advance search box close to the submit button.

Use the screen that comes up that includes m/d/y/, zip, last benefit, etc.

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By: Jerry Bryanhttp://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2010/03/04/social-security-death-index-to-be-updated-weekly/#comment-44795 Jerry Bryan Sun, 07 Mar 2010 15:17:29 +0000 http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/?p=3109#comment-44795 Re: Andy #3. I don’t understand your comment about “going to the SSDI itself”. I think that’s was what I am doing. I don’t really search the SSDI from the main ancestry.com home page or from the main ancestry.com search page. I go straight to the SSDI page.

But even on the SSDI page, there is a New Search template and there is an Old Search template. The templates are very different. The template you are describing sounds like the Old Search template for the SSDI. (I dearly wish sometimes that we as users could post screen shots to the blog. It would make things so much easier to understand.)

So I wonder if you could clarify. Are you actually using the Old Search template for the SSDI, or is there a way to specify month/day/year for the New Search template for the SSDI that I don’t understand?

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By: Lynnhttp://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2010/03/04/social-security-death-index-to-be-updated-weekly/#comment-44793 Lynn Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:11:38 +0000 http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/?p=3109#comment-44793 #11 Richard
A computer extract would likely not contain all information that is on the original document ( i.e. you may gain additional insights from a copy of the original.) Additionally, there could be errors in the extract due to transcription errors.

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By: Richard H.http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2010/03/04/social-security-death-index-to-be-updated-weekly/#comment-44780 Richard H. Sun, 07 Mar 2010 00:21:33 +0000 http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/?p=3109#comment-44780 Regarding the SS-5. Social Security charges $27 for a copy of the orignal application for SSN (with SSN provided) and $16 for a computer extract of this application. ($2 more each if SSN is not provided.) What is the difference, if any, between the computer extract and the copy of the original application?

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By: Carol A. H.http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2010/03/04/social-security-death-index-to-be-updated-weekly/#comment-44773 Carol A. H. Sat, 06 Mar 2010 21:04:11 +0000 http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/?p=3109#comment-44773 Chad:

The SS # of the deceased person I’m researching is 573-20-8850. It came from a California death index. I don’t have a copy of the death certificate. Her name was Harriet Mangs in that record. I think her maiden name was Kisto. I’m trying to prove her parents were William Kisto and Agnes –?–.

Harriet/Elizabeth Kisto or Elizabeth/Harriet Kisto was born 16 Jan 1919 in Pennsylvania, and died 14 Mar 1970 in San Francisco ( ? city or county), California. She married Albert Edwin Mangs. I’m doing some research for another person, free of charge.

I’m aware of the change in record keeping for the Social Security Administration. They had the wrong name attached to my SS# in their records. I had a terrible time talking on the phone trying to get them to help me get it changed to my correct name before I went on SS. I won’t forget that incident. Garbage in, garbage out, on computers!

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By: Chad Millinerhttp://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2010/03/04/social-security-death-index-to-be-updated-weekly/#comment-44767 Chad Milliner Sat, 06 Mar 2010 19:09:51 +0000 http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/?p=3109#comment-44767 Lynn asked if I knew of a good reference source for tips and tricks. The genealogical reference book I like the best is The Source: A Guidebook of American Genealogy, which is now in its third edition. This book was one of the very first books published by Ancestry.com, way back in 1984, back when Ancestry.com was not yet a dot com. I have loved this book since 1986, when, as a then newbie genealogist I found the book invaluable in learning how to use the various types of genealogical records. This was of course many years before I became employed by Ancestry.com.

There are also a wealth of free tips and “how-to” articles at Ancestry.com’s Article Archives, which is part of our online Learning Center. I just typed the words “Social Security” into the search box on the Article Archives page and found links to several articles about the SSDI that records experts have written over the years, including one from 2003 that supplies some further details about the SSDI.

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By: Chad Millinerhttp://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2010/03/04/social-security-death-index-to-be-updated-weekly/#comment-44765 Chad Milliner Sat, 06 Mar 2010 18:35:46 +0000 http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/?p=3109#comment-44765 Carol, you did not say when the person you are looking for died, but if that death occured before approximately 1962 that would likely explain why he or she cannot be found in the SSDI. The Social Security Administration began using computers in about 1962 to keep track of deaths. Before then, they used paper methods for that and so about 98% of the entries in the SSDI are for the years after 1961.

However, the Social Security Administration does have SS-5 forms for everyone who ever received a Social Security number. Thus, the SS-5 can be ordered regardless of whether the death took place before or after 1962. The Social Security Administration began issuing numbers in 1936 so you will not find SS-5 forms for people who died before then. Also, many people alive in 1936 never applied for a Social Security number because they did not qualify for one reason or another. For example, initially, the self-employed were not part of the Social Security program.

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