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Genetic Genealogy Webinar is a success!

Posted by Wendy Jessen on July 9, 2009 in Ancestry.com DNA

On July 8, Ancestry.com DNA held its first webinar, Genetic Genealogy Made Easy.   And it was a great success!   Thank you to all who sent in questions and also for your participation. Feedback has been very encouraging and positive.

We presented research examples, how-to’s, test types (and limitations), and other topics such as: privacy and ethnicity laying a foundational understanding for beginners and others interested in entering the fascinating world of genetic genealogy.

Many thanks to Darlene Odenwalder and Elise Allen who helped me make last night such a success. And to Mark Weaver and his team for the behind the scenes technical work to make it happen. Finally, thanks to RootsTelevision.com for providing footage of Chris Haley, nephew of Roots author, Alex Haley, displaying how fun and easy providing a DNA swab sample can be. We struggled a lot with how we could show people how tests are taken and the video does a great job of showing the initial stage of DNA testing – the swab collection process.  It’s in our webinar coverage link below but if you want to go directly to the video (since there has been strong interest) click here.

If you were not one of the thousands who were able to join us last night, the webinar is archived and can be accessed here.  Archived webinars contain actual video and may be viewed at any time at no cost.

We will continue to address your feedback from the webinar, so please pay attention to our homepage and to upcoming blog posts for additional updates.  Your comments and feedback are always appreciated and can be sent directly to dna@ancestry.com.

Thank you for your participation!

24 comments

Comments
1 Hugh HarrisJuly 10, 2009 at 8:49 am

I had asked this question Weds, but can’t find an area where there may be a response from you. All the males in my mother’s line are dead except for her brother’s son ( my cousin). Would I be able to track her male DNA lineage through him?

Hugh

2 Wendy JessenJuly 10, 2009 at 8:57 am

Hugh, your mother’s brother’s son (your cousin) would represent your mother’s father’s paternal line (your grandfather). So, if that is the line that you are interested in, have your cousin take the Paternal Lineage Test.

Either of you can start a DNA Group representative of the line in question and can both be members as your genetic genealogy study progresses.

3 Taylor JenningsJuly 10, 2009 at 12:15 pm

Thank you for offering the Genetic Genealogy Webinar — it was very informative. However, I still have questions regarding testing for ethnicity. I do understand that ancestry.com does not offer a “product” for ethnic testing, but I hope that you will provide an informative discussion on the topic — other than the suggestion of “buyer beware.” I’m sure that you have information that would help those of us who seek such a testing device, even though you do not offer such.

Thanks again for the webinar.

Taylor

4 Donna MesserlyJuly 10, 2009 at 3:12 pm

Wow. This sounds like it was a great webinar. I’m sorry I missed it. I’m absolutely fascinated by genetic genealogy. Thanks for the information. I’ll keep a closer eye out for the next one!

5 Sharon Jenkins WallingJuly 10, 2009 at 3:30 pm

Could medications effect DNA tests (Y-33 or 46) in any way? My brother is on numerous medications for heart disease and diabetes.
BTW-I was registered but unable to watch the webinar on Wed. I greatly appreciate the archive option. Sharon

6 Linda AndersonJuly 10, 2009 at 4:11 pm

Dear Wendy:
May I purchase the Maternal DNA
@$179.00 without purchasing the gigantic Ancestry program? We’ve already traced the lines of both Paternal and Maternal family. I’m anxious to do this, and my brother is doing the Paternal side.

7 Dolores OlnessJuly 10, 2009 at 4:45 pm

I hope you will have more Webinars about DNA and genealogy; e.g. how the results of DNA tests could help with tracing the family trees.

8 Wendy JessenJuly 10, 2009 at 7:28 pm

Sharon, you can advise your brother to go ahead and take the DNA test. There should be no affect to the testing from his medications.

9 Wendy JessenJuly 10, 2009 at 7:33 pm

Linda, I am not sure what you mean by “gigantic Ancestry program” but if you mean do you have to be a paid subscriber to Ancestry.com in order to participate in the DNA testing, the answer is NO. And Yes, you can purchase additional testing after an initial test purchase. And Yes, you can purchase a Maternal test (mtDNA) without having to purchase a Paternal (YDNA) test.

If I haven’t addressed your specific question, please contact our client services at dna@ancestry.com.

thanks!

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11 Alexander CorcoranJuly 11, 2009 at 8:29 am

Wendy,

I enjoyed the webinar very much. I have one question: Why should I buy your DNA product while most of the products you offer are much cheaper with the National Geographic “Genographic” Project? I want to be able to get the most genealogically with DNA testing while not breaking my budget.

Thank you.

Alexander Corcoran

12 RenateJuly 11, 2009 at 11:03 am

I am very disappointed to have missed this webinar, although I do realize I can view it on my own later. My concern is that have not received ANY notifications about this webinar – nothing to let me know that is was even occuring. Previously, I’ve always received invitations or notifications. Has this changed?

13 Wendy JessenJuly 11, 2009 at 8:19 pm

Alexander, the fundamental difference between Ancestry.com DNA and the Genographic Project is the mission. The focus of the Genographic Project is ancient ancestry (thousands of years ago). As such, they are able to provide haplogroup identification using only a small number of markers. It is a great deal if this is all you are interested in. The focus of Ancestry.com DNA is to provide genealogically relevant information using genetic genealogy. Our DNA tests do provide ancient ancestral information, but the real gem is the haplotype via which you can match other potential genetic cousins. We also provide easy access for attaching your DNA to your online family tree – another great way to maximize your potential for matches.

14 Wendy JessenJuly 11, 2009 at 8:21 pm

Renate, we are sorry you missed the webinar. Hope that you will view the archived version. The webinar has been advertised on the Blog and our homepage. Once participants registered, event notifications were sent as reminders. This was our first webinar. Each one should be an improvement on the past. Thanks for your comments.

15 Alexander CorcoranJuly 12, 2009 at 6:30 am

Thank you for clearing that up Wendy. I have another question: Do you get the same information and features genealogically if you convert your results from another company? What do you get if you convert? And how do you do it?

Thanks again.

Alexander Corcoran

16 Wendy JessenJuly 13, 2009 at 3:15 pm

Alexander, Ancestry.com DNA allows you to input results from another testing company. Doing so provides you with access to the Ancestry.com DNA database and the potential to match with the participants. Furthermore, you can attach those results to an online family tree. Participants tested directly with Ancestry.com DNA will also receive a haplogroup designation and a multi-page results packet with detailed information describing the user’s ancient ancestry and DNA results.

A note of caution: standards for genetic genealogy have been slow to form, so there are some differences in nomenclature among the organizations. Therefore, in some cases conversion may be necessary to compare apples to apples. A good resource to consult on marker standards is can be found here.

17 Judy StoryJuly 14, 2009 at 11:35 pm

I apparently am the only member of my family- my Father is deceased, as well as my brother; however my father had some half-brothers (same father, different mothers); could one of their sons take the DNA test for my Paternal Linage or does it have to be more precise– same Mother AND Father? Please let me know. Thanks,
Judy

18 Wendy JessenJuly 14, 2009 at 11:42 pm

Judy, good news! Your father’s half-brothers share the same Y chromosome as did your father (provided they had the same father as you indicated in your description). So, they and/or their sons or any other direct males down the line will be able to represent your paternal line!

19 Taylor JenningsJuly 15, 2009 at 1:36 pm

Wendy,

I left the following comment on 10 July 2009 at 12:15 pm (see Comment #3). I have not received a reply yet.

“Thank you for offering the Genetic Genealogy Webinar — it was very informative. However, I still have questions regarding testing for ethnicity. I do understand that ancestry.com does not offer a “product” for ethnic testing, but I hope that you will provide an informative discussion on the topic — other than the suggestion of “buyer beware.” I’m sure that you have information that would help those of us who seek such a testing device, even though you do not offer such.

Thanks again for the webinar.

Taylor”

I do hope to receive a reply regarding this issue. Thank you once again.

Taylor

20 Wendy JessenJuly 15, 2009 at 2:20 pm

Taylor, Your feedback from your original comment was added to our feedback and enhancement list.

Neither your haplogroup prediction nor your DNA test result will reveal the percentage of a given ancestral ethnicity nor the precise tribe from which you may descend.

There is great controversy over “ethnicity” type testing and many user experiences can be easily found by doing Google searches on the web. Articles and scientific papers can also be found discussing this type of testing which would be helpful for you and others to evaluate.

Just last week, an article arguing for tighter controls on DNA Ancestry testing was published. From it, we read “In the past year, scientists, sociologists and bioethicists, among others, have come to agree that the technology of these direct-to-consumer tests, which run between $100 and $1,000 apiece, is problematic and that the test results can be misleading and lead to problems including skewed ethnic data and questionable membership claims to Native American tribes.”

The issues the folks in the article are upset about are largely due to the differences in inheritance patterns of the various types of DNA used in DNA genealogy i.e. Y DNA, mtDNA and autosomal DNA and the limitations of each and what definitively can be determined or not determined using these in DNA genealogy testing.

21 Charles BurressJuly 15, 2009 at 7:34 pm

If someone takes the 33-marker test and another person takes a 46-marker test, can basic comparisons be made, or must the two people take the same test?

22 Mary GallagherJuly 16, 2009 at 6:25 am

I thought when doing the Paternal DNA test, that all the ancestral matches would have the SAME LAST NAME since the DNA is from father to father. But on both of my participants, my husband and brother, this has not been true at all. So how could these other surnames be kin to to my participants if there are so many differnet last names?? Thanks!

23 Wendy JessenJuly 16, 2009 at 8:19 am

Charles, A Y33 and Y46 test can be compared on those common markers. In other words, the same 33 markers shared by both test types can be equally compared. If the comparison reveals that the two individuals are close enough matches, then integrate the paper research for finding the common ancestor.

24 Wendy JessenJuly 16, 2009 at 1:14 pm

Mary, it is important when reviewing matches that both individuals were tested on the majority of markers Y33 or Y46. (You want to match on all but two or three markers.)

Both of your participants fall into this category – and one of your participants has several exact matches! That is good. I would strongly recommend contacting the potential matches to collaborate on family history and a possible common ancestor.

Sometimes, if there is a match, and the surnames are different there could have been an adoption, illegitimacy or name change. It is with the marriage of DNA and paper genealogies that will show where the actual common paternal ancestor is.

For your information: The “Paternal DNA Matches” screen displays matches in a ranked order based on the most recent common ancestor (MRCA) between the user and the individual in the list. (MRCA refers to a statistical calculation that determines the likely range of generations in which two individuals share a common ancestor.) MRCA calculations are based on the number of markers tested, the number of matching values and the mutation rate of the markers. This calculation does not take into account the surnames of the individuals involved.

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