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	<title>Comments on: Hot Keys in the New Search User Interface</title>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2008/10/10/hot-keys-in-the-new-search-user-interface/#comment-30968</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure &quot;shortcut&quot; keys are the answer.  We just need a search that will bring up the information we listed.  I agree with 23 &amp; 27.  I am finding it harder and harder to search.  Going to the library might just be easier.  I too have been a long time subscriber, but not sure I can get my money&#039;s worth anymore.  Would really like to see a search that work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure &#8220;shortcut&#8221; keys are the answer.  We just need a search that will bring up the information we listed.  I agree with 23 &amp; 27.  I am finding it harder and harder to search.  Going to the library might just be easier.  I too have been a long time subscriber, but not sure I can get my money&#8217;s worth anymore.  Would really like to see a search that work.</p>
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		<title>By: Joanne Sholes</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2008/10/10/hot-keys-in-the-new-search-user-interface/#comment-29747</link>
		<dc:creator>Joanne Sholes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 01:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a quick question about the new message greeting me as I go to login on Ancestry... &quot;Make this the year you discover your story&quot;  Is this necessary?  It is a bother to me as now I have to close it before I can login.  Just one more step before I can being my searching.  Please tell me this isn&#039;t going to be a permanent fixture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick question about the new message greeting me as I go to login on Ancestry&#8230; &#8220;Make this the year you discover your story&#8221;  Is this necessary?  It is a bother to me as now I have to close it before I can login.  Just one more step before I can being my searching.  Please tell me this isn&#8217;t going to be a permanent fixture.</p>
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		<title>By: George Gilbert Moss</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2008/10/10/hot-keys-in-the-new-search-user-interface/#comment-28692</link>
		<dc:creator>George Gilbert Moss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 01:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Family Tree, mine ? I believe that my ancestors lived in the Brattonsville, South Carolina area in 1770 to 1800. Of course; Moss, Brattain, Mendenhall, Huddleston, Hill, Millikan, Smart, ! People with these names remained in contact across Smokies, Tennessee, Kentucky, Illiniois, Iowa, Kansas, and west. The Caywoods, Morrisons, Bradshaws, Bridemans, so many intertwined. I am lost for information. WHEN, WHERE, WHY, WHO.? The names are many and I need help to crack the time and place where they entered these endeared shores.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Family Tree, mine ? I believe that my ancestors lived in the Brattonsville, South Carolina area in 1770 to 1800. Of course; Moss, Brattain, Mendenhall, Huddleston, Hill, Millikan, Smart, ! People with these names remained in contact across Smokies, Tennessee, Kentucky, Illiniois, Iowa, Kansas, and west. The Caywoods, Morrisons, Bradshaws, Bridemans, so many intertwined. I am lost for information. WHEN, WHERE, WHY, WHO.? The names are many and I need help to crack the time and place where they entered these endeared shores.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Ford</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2008/10/10/hot-keys-in-the-new-search-user-interface/#comment-27923</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Ford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Response to #9

Andy,

&gt;An easy way to prevent duplicates is to *not* merge other trees into yours.

Sometimes it just happens. I would like that ability to eliminate doubles when it happens. Or to merge people without having to jump through a million hoops. Now that would be an improvement instead of some of the sophomoric eye candy that seems to be forced on us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Response to #9</p>
<p>Andy,</p>
<p>&gt;An easy way to prevent duplicates is to *not* merge other trees into yours.</p>
<p>Sometimes it just happens. I would like that ability to eliminate doubles when it happens. Or to merge people without having to jump through a million hoops. Now that would be an improvement instead of some of the sophomoric eye candy that seems to be forced on us.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Bryan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2008/10/10/hot-keys-in-the-new-search-user-interface/#comment-25725</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t posted anything about search in a while, just waiting on the template improvements that Anne has mentioned.  But I have run into a somewhat search new problem that&#039;s related to some problems that have been reported previously.

My mother has sort of a lost branch of the family, where one of her uncles moved from Tennessee to California way back when.  I have oral histories of the names of the uncle&#039;s children, but that&#039;s about it (the uncle&#039;s children being my mother&#039;s first cousins).  One of the cousins is named Louisa Bray, born about 1927, and my mother remembers that Louisa married a man named Bray who was Louisa&#039;s cousin.

Well, the search process does not do a very good job looking for spouses when they both have the same last name.  Old Search does ok when you are in a specific database such as Tennessee marriages, California marriages, Nevada marriages, etc.  But Old Search does a poor job of finding spouses with the same last name from the Advanced Search screen of the main home page or main search page.  New Search does a poor job of finding spouses with the same last name in all cases.

The problems are two-fold.  One problem is that New Search does not distinguish properly between the first name and the last name of the second spouse, essentially treating the names like keywords.  And in the case of generic searches, even Old Search has the same flawed design.  The search mixes last names between spouses.  A search for Jane Smith and her husband Mr. Doe will find Jane Doe who married Samuel Anderson.  But just think about how many extra and incorrect hits you get if you look for Jane Doe who married Mr. Doe (or in my case, Louisa Bray who married Mr. Bray).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t posted anything about search in a while, just waiting on the template improvements that Anne has mentioned.  But I have run into a somewhat search new problem that&#8217;s related to some problems that have been reported previously.</p>
<p>My mother has sort of a lost branch of the family, where one of her uncles moved from Tennessee to California way back when.  I have oral histories of the names of the uncle&#8217;s children, but that&#8217;s about it (the uncle&#8217;s children being my mother&#8217;s first cousins).  One of the cousins is named Louisa Bray, born about 1927, and my mother remembers that Louisa married a man named Bray who was Louisa&#8217;s cousin.</p>
<p>Well, the search process does not do a very good job looking for spouses when they both have the same last name.  Old Search does ok when you are in a specific database such as Tennessee marriages, California marriages, Nevada marriages, etc.  But Old Search does a poor job of finding spouses with the same last name from the Advanced Search screen of the main home page or main search page.  New Search does a poor job of finding spouses with the same last name in all cases.</p>
<p>The problems are two-fold.  One problem is that New Search does not distinguish properly between the first name and the last name of the second spouse, essentially treating the names like keywords.  And in the case of generic searches, even Old Search has the same flawed design.  The search mixes last names between spouses.  A search for Jane Smith and her husband Mr. Doe will find Jane Doe who married Samuel Anderson.  But just think about how many extra and incorrect hits you get if you look for Jane Doe who married Mr. Doe (or in my case, Louisa Bray who married Mr. Bray).</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Cousins</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2008/10/10/hot-keys-in-the-new-search-user-interface/#comment-25535</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Cousins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anne

Where are you. Your last response was the day after this article was started - that was October 11th - not November - October, nearly 5 weeks ago. 

These last posts from Jerry Bryan and Jade #s 28,29 and 30, with mine at #24 and #25 need answers, is something broken?

And it doesn&#039;t matter how much lipstick you put on a pig - it&#039;s still a pig.

TonyC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne</p>
<p>Where are you. Your last response was the day after this article was started &#8211; that was October 11th &#8211; not November &#8211; October, nearly 5 weeks ago. </p>
<p>These last posts from Jerry Bryan and Jade #s 28,29 and 30, with mine at #24 and #25 need answers, is something broken?</p>
<p>And it doesn&#8217;t matter how much lipstick you put on a pig &#8211; it&#8217;s still a pig.</p>
<p>TonyC</p>
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		<title>By: Jade</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2008/10/10/hot-keys-in-the-new-search-user-interface/#comment-25260</link>
		<dc:creator>Jade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Jerry I have noticed problems in Old Search as well.  Results sort less reliably according to my criteria.

Oh, and results are including same County name, wrong State among the top choices.  This is stupid and annoying, allied with the same silliness in the new-style links in the Message Boards.  The better results presentation would be Same State, Different County.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Jerry I have noticed problems in Old Search as well.  Results sort less reliably according to my criteria.</p>
<p>Oh, and results are including same County name, wrong State among the top choices.  This is stupid and annoying, allied with the same silliness in the new-style links in the Message Boards.  The better results presentation would be Same State, Different County.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Bryan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2008/10/10/hot-keys-in-the-new-search-user-interface/#comment-25253</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a quick follow-up on my #28, others have reported search problems since the collections option has been introduced.  I wonder if that&#039;s really the root cause of the problems I have encountered??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a quick follow-up on my #28, others have reported search problems since the collections option has been introduced.  I wonder if that&#8217;s really the root cause of the problems I have encountered??</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Bryan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2008/10/10/hot-keys-in-the-new-search-user-interface/#comment-25200</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 05:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also think something funny is going on with Search - I notice it more in Old Search but I&#039;ve seen it also in New Search.  My basic symptom is to do a search where matches are expected and to get nothing.  Repeating the search immediately then gets the expected results.

For example, get a list of matches and repeat the search with more specific criteria that will narrow the search.  You can tell from the first search that the more specific criteria will get at least a few matches, but it finds none.  Repeat the more specific search immediately, and it produces the expected result.

I even had the following strangeness.  A search gave 5 pages of matches.  I was paging through the matches with the Next Page option.  When I hit the 4th page, it said there were no matches.  I backed up and clicked Next Page again, and the 4th page of matches appeared correctly.

It appears that some otherwise unannounced maintenance is going on, and that the maintenance is causing very strange and unrepeatable search results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also think something funny is going on with Search &#8211; I notice it more in Old Search but I&#8217;ve seen it also in New Search.  My basic symptom is to do a search where matches are expected and to get nothing.  Repeating the search immediately then gets the expected results.</p>
<p>For example, get a list of matches and repeat the search with more specific criteria that will narrow the search.  You can tell from the first search that the more specific criteria will get at least a few matches, but it finds none.  Repeat the more specific search immediately, and it produces the expected result.</p>
<p>I even had the following strangeness.  A search gave 5 pages of matches.  I was paging through the matches with the Next Page option.  When I hit the 4th page, it said there were no matches.  I backed up and clicked Next Page again, and the 4th page of matches appeared correctly.</p>
<p>It appears that some otherwise unannounced maintenance is going on, and that the maintenance is causing very strange and unrepeatable search results.</p>
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		<title>By: Joanne Sholes</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2008/10/10/hot-keys-in-the-new-search-user-interface/#comment-25142</link>
		<dc:creator>Joanne Sholes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 16:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First I must admit to being an old old ancestry user who has some issues with the new look.  I was going to do some updated research on a family member whose name appears in my public tree.  When I initiated the search from my new home page I received the message that ancestry could find no matches.  I know of at least three matches that should have come up.  SO I then clicked on the search tab and did a search... again no hits.  SO I then clicked on the try it now tab for the new look and did a search... up came my three hits.  NOW, I thought perhaps I was going to be forced to switch over to the NEW SEARCH (which I do not care for...particularly the display of results..the old is so much more tidy...)  But, then I thought, if you were trying to force me to use the new search why didn&#039;t my famly name appear on the search from the HOME page which is also very new?  Is there just a glitch in coordinating things or am I going to have to do searches from three different pages to exhaust resources?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First I must admit to being an old old ancestry user who has some issues with the new look.  I was going to do some updated research on a family member whose name appears in my public tree.  When I initiated the search from my new home page I received the message that ancestry could find no matches.  I know of at least three matches that should have come up.  SO I then clicked on the search tab and did a search&#8230; again no hits.  SO I then clicked on the try it now tab for the new look and did a search&#8230; up came my three hits.  NOW, I thought perhaps I was going to be forced to switch over to the NEW SEARCH (which I do not care for&#8230;particularly the display of results..the old is so much more tidy&#8230;)  But, then I thought, if you were trying to force me to use the new search why didn&#8217;t my famly name appear on the search from the HOME page which is also very new?  Is there just a glitch in coordinating things or am I going to have to do searches from three different pages to exhaust resources?</p>
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